Carnegie Council Gray Rhino Podcast

With Devin Stewart at the Carnegie Council
With Devin Stewart at the Carnegie Council

It’s always great to collaborate with the team at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs in New York City. Recently I spoke about “Move Over Black Swan: Here Comes the Gray Rhino” on June 14th, 2016, and as always was delighted by the great turnout and thoughtful conversation. You can read the transcript and listen to the podcast HERE.

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